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governing vision for the country? you offer a governing vision for the country and then you tell people how you're going to specifically do it. he's accepting the premise of wongish questions that the vast majority of the american people don't understand and probably don't want to understand because it reminds them of a scene from the movie" dave." is the government too big or not? are taxes too high or not? >> or how about this one, do you need revenue or not? what about that one? that doesn't mean anything? >> well, that's the conversation that democrats want to have. >> but don't you think that's the conversation that american people want -- if you tell me you want to look at the deficit and you want to pay our debt for wars, for example, that were not paid for -- as i understand it when you pay for medicare and medicaid and some of the interests, everything else is paid for by loans. from china. if you want to talk about the numbers here, you have to talk about how to pay your bill. that's like having a conversati
governing vision for the country? you offer a governing vision for the country and then you tell people how you're going to specifically do it. he's accepting the premise of wongish questions that the vast majority of the american people don't understand and probably don't want to understand because it reminds them of a scene from the movie" dave." is the government too big or not? are taxes too high or not? >> or how about this one, do you need revenue or not? what about that...
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there are a host of things the federal government doesn't recognize. most of the courts who look at this have struck it down as unconstitutional. the supreme court is almost sure to take it up. when you have lower courts striking down an act of congress, they feel to step in. we'll probably hear about that in late november. >> another thing active in front of the court, a ruling that could have an impact on minorities for years to come. >> make a huge change to the voting rights act. the court hasn't granted this one, but it's almost certain to. here's the issue. part of the voting rights act says in areas that had a history of zprimgs mostly in the south, those states or cities or counties can't make changes at all in their election procedures until they get permission from the federal government. three years ago they came close to striking that down saying things changed in the south. congress should update the map. congress didn't do a thing. so there's a strong possibility that the supreme court here could weaken if not entirely strike that down wh
there are a host of things the federal government doesn't recognize. most of the courts who look at this have struck it down as unconstitutional. the supreme court is almost sure to take it up. when you have lower courts striking down an act of congress, they feel to step in. we'll probably hear about that in late november. >> another thing active in front of the court, a ruling that could have an impact on minorities for years to come. >> make a huge change to the voting rights...
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we had 600,000 government jobs added in the last two months. we had 873,000 jobs by a household survey, which is a total estimate from 50,000 phone calls. of those 600,000 were temporary workers. chris, these numbers are all a series of assumptions, tons of assumptions, and it just seems somewhat coincidental that the month before the election, the numbers go one tenth of a point below where they were when the president started, although i don't see anything in the economy that says these surges are true. the 873,000 jobs in the household survey is the strongest economy since 1983. i don't think you can find an economist, there were 25 of them this morning that predicted 8.1% to 8.2%, but they did predict 114,000 jobs. we got 114,000 jobs, and somehow the assumptions ended up at 7.8%. >> well, let me get back to your tweet this morning. it must be embarrassing for to you do a tweet now after the power you used to have. i mean, tweeting, doesn't seem like something i'd hear from jack welch and i mean it. here you put out the word, unbelievable j
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i saw the president's vision as trickle-down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> all right. let's put it through the spin cycle. steve, you were there in denver. what's your take? >> looking at that obama response, i think everybody says why didn't you say it to his face? why didn't you say that last night? i think, look, it's pretty well established by this point why this was such a disastrous debate for obama. i'll play a quick clip here, and this is a jumping-off point to talk about what he needs to do in the next debates to avoid a repeat of this. let's play a clip of an opening romney gave him that he completely missed. >> i'm not looking to cut massive taxes and reduce the revenues going to the government. my number one principle is there's no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i want to underline that. virtually everything you said about my tax plan is inaccurate. so if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i'd say absolutely not. i'm not looking for 5i trillion tax cut. i won't put in a place a tax cut that adds to the def
i saw the president's vision as trickle-down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> all right. let's put it through the spin cycle. steve, you were there in denver. what's your take? >> looking at that obama response, i think everybody says why didn't you say it to his face? why didn't you say that last night? i think, look, it's pretty well established by this point why this was such a disastrous debate for obama. i'll play a quick clip here, and this is...
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we had 600,000 government jobs added in the last two months. we had 873,000 jobs by a household survey, which is a total estimate, from 50,000 phone calls. of those 600,000 were temporary workers. chris, these numbers are all a series of assumptions. tons of assumptions. and it just seems somewhat coincidental that the month before the election the numbers go 0.1% below when they were when the president started, although, i don't see anything in the economy that says these surges are true. the 873,000 jobs in the household survey is the strongest economy since 1983. i don't think you can find an economist. there were 25 ever them this morning that predicted 8.1 to 8.2 but they did forget 114,000 jobs. we got 114,000 jobs and somehow, the assumptions ended up at 7.8. >> let me just get back to your tweet this morning. it must be embarrassing for you to do a tweet after the power you used to have. tweeting doesn't seem like something i'd hear from jack welch. unbelievable job numbers, fair enough. these chicago guys will do anything to change the
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security they are uncertain what camp he would fall into and are uncertainly themselves about how he would govern. would he take the lead in bombing iran if the mullahs were getting to close or just back up the israelis one of his senior advises asked. would he push for peace with the palestinians or live with the status quo? he's left himself a lot of wiggle room. if they don't know, who does? >> steve clemons is editor-at-large and david corn has a new book out tomorrow. you broke that story. steve, i'm going to be pretty broad here and just start with my critique of romney. every time he speaks he lists more fronts he wants to get hotter and he wants to stay in longer whether it's afghanistan or iraq, he wants to go in deeper. should have gone in deeper on libya and syria. should be tougher on drawing a bright line earlier than anybody but the israelis in terms of the iranian nuclear threat. everything is go to war, go to war. name anyone in his family history going back or forward who has ever put on a military uniform. they have no intention of participating in all these wars in any way and
security they are uncertain what camp he would fall into and are uncertainly themselves about how he would govern. would he take the lead in bombing iran if the mullahs were getting to close or just back up the israelis one of his senior advises asked. would he push for peace with the palestinians or live with the status quo? he's left himself a lot of wiggle room. if they don't know, who does? >> steve clemons is editor-at-large and david corn has a new book out tomorrow. you broke that...
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solve this. >>> well, jim, when it comes to jobs, president obama prefers what i call a trickle down government solution. now, my plan is different. it involves 41 basic elements, 6 abrupt reversals of positions, and 3 outright lies. >> we're back. for political comedians the presidential debate is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody does it better than "saturday night live." this week's show tapped into the zeitgeist of last wednesday's debate, romney stretching the truth and obama not catching him. let's watch. >> the anniversary gift, i can't believe i forgot the anniversary gift. okay. i'll be out of here by 9:00 local time. i'll have the secret service distract michelle while i hit the hotel gift shop for some kind of anniversary president. they had a denver broncos sweatshirt. she might like that. the hotel had some nice bathrobes for sale. that could be good. >> excuse me, governor, mr. president? >> i'm sorry, yeah, yeah. what's up? >> mr. president, governor romney has just said that he killed osama bin laden. would you care to respond? >> no, you two go ahead. >> with me now is
solve this. >>> well, jim, when it comes to jobs, president obama prefers what i call a trickle down government solution. now, my plan is different. it involves 41 basic elements, 6 abrupt reversals of positions, and 3 outright lies. >> we're back. for political comedians the presidential debate is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody does it better than "saturday night live." this week's show tapped into the zeitgeist of last wednesday's debate, romney stretching...
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a pasthun-dominated government there. so there is really little reason to see we'll get much out of the negotiations. secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a legitimate way. with a punitive expedition to try to respond to the attack, which was launched and coordinated from afghanistan. and, so i think the intervention was legitimate. it was flawed execution, starting with the bush team. president obama surged more forces in there, did some good on the ground. but it didn't produce an afghan government that was competent, and had some sense integrity, the key to afghanistan is pakistan, and possibly, they're on the verge of unraveling also, potentially with nuclear weapons, so tough situation for america.
a pasthun-dominated government there. so there is really little reason to see we'll get much out of the negotiations. secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a...
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governing? >> there's certainly similari similariti similarities. when you're president of the united states, you need to do persuading. there are certain skill sets in common. one of the big differences when you campaign, you can be pretty vague and you can hedge. when you're governing, you have to make choices, and you've got to make decisions that have real policy implications. that's the big difference. >> can you name people who ran bad campaigns and were good presidents, and then people who ran good campaigns. >> i suspect the example of someone running a good campaign but not good as president might be lyndon johnson in '64. he ran a very powerful campaign and won 62%, 63% of the vote but didn't govern effectively. >> you know, john, i think it was sydney bloomentha hal who described it, but the process is eternal. it's endless. i kind of wonder when we talk about the connection between campaign skills and governing skills, if came paining is permanent, it's political too. you understand
governing? >> there's certainly similari similariti similarities. when you're president of the united states, you need to do persuading. there are certain skill sets in common. one of the big differences when you campaign, you can be pretty vague and you can hedge. when you're governing, you have to make choices, and you've got to make decisions that have real policy implications. that's the big difference. >> can you name people who ran bad campaigns and were good presidents, and...
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stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> reporter: alex, that's base you cannily what we're expecting to hear again tonight this, idea that one report is great but it's not the same thing as a strategy. we expect governor romney to continue to hammer that point this evening. >> i got to say i want to give him props for his comedic timing there. quickly there the conspiracy theories, publicly mr. romney, he's staying above the fray. but what are they saying? are you hearing anything privately about this? >> reporter: the campaign strategy when it comes to the conspiracy theories is to say we're going to deal with the numbers as they exist. they have not gone out of their way to knock it down or stand by the numbers. there seems to be a belief that if elements of the base want to continue to hold onto that conspiracy theory, that may be something that strengthens them to have people fired up. as you can see we're getting a little bit of the preparations going on around us. >>
stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> reporter: alex, that's base you cannily what we're expecting to hear again tonight this, idea that one report is great but it's not the same thing as a strategy. we expect governor romney to continue to hammer that point this evening. >> i got to say i want to give him props for his comedic timing there. quickly there the conspiracy theories, publicly mr. romney, he's staying...
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that if you're in the middle class, you're one strike away from needing government assistance. they view it as a lifetime of support where most americans view it as a safety net that's there to catch you. >> governor, it seems that the president and vice president are not going to let this go. it is about what you believe about americans and where we need to go. in north carolina today, vice president biden took the issue of the 47% comments. it's clear they're staying on message. listen to what the vice president had to say today. >> i know i'm not the only one who has sounded strange for governor romney to write off 47% of this country. what i can't understand is characterizing almost half the country as dependent, not willing to take personal responsibility, seeing themselves as victims. this country is neither dependent nor in decline. i don't recognize the country they're talking about. i really mean it. it's never, never, never been a good bet to bet against the american people. never! never! >> do you predict, governor, we're going to hear that from the president in tomo
that if you're in the middle class, you're one strike away from needing government assistance. they view it as a lifetime of support where most americans view it as a safety net that's there to catch you. >> governor, it seems that the president and vice president are not going to let this go. it is about what you believe about americans and where we need to go. in north carolina today, vice president biden took the issue of the 47% comments. it's clear they're staying on message. listen...
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we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no other energy company has invested more in the us than bp. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. today, our commitment to the gulf, and to america, has never been stronger. we know you. we know you have to rise early... and work late, with not enough sleep in between. how you sometimes need to get over to that exit, like, right now. and how things aren't... just about you anymore. introducing the all-new, smart-sensing... honda accord. it starts with you. >>> the towering walls of indiana state prison have been guarding inmates' secrets since the time of the civil war. but during the shooting of our "extended stay" series, prison offic
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the government said it was billed more than $400 million in bogus claims. >>> new rules for secret service agents after that drunken partying at a colombian hotel back in april. they're now banned from drinking where they're staying. sharing sensitive information online could get you fired. >>> bruce davis, known as charles manson's right-hand man, has been recommended for parole. he served more than four decades for the 1969 killings of a musician and his stuntman. the california governor jerry brown will have the final say. >>> here's a scoop for you, the mars curiosity rover is about to do a little digging. it will collect sampling to see if there were ever favorable conditions for microbe yal life. >>> the presidential debate had one of the biggest audiences in history. "the new york times" says the number of people watching on tv and on the internet totalled about 70 million viewers. mitt romney's campaign is releasing three new tv ads today. one says president obama is creating debt instead of jobs. one ad will air only in nevada. another in ohio. >>> a new film about death of osama
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sense of entitlement that because they work for the police department or because they work for the government or for a city agency in new york, that they can do whatever they want. >> according to jimmy, many officers tasked with enforcing traffic and parking laws are also breaking them. >> the same people who write these tickets have these placards that they put in the windshield of their cars that identify them as traffic cops, as police officers, as court officers. then they use these parking placards illegally. >> april 2009. jimmy justice is on patrol in brooklyn, new york. >> i notice a vehicle with a police department placard in it parked at a fire hydrant, and that raised my suspicions. >> jimmy breaks out his camera and starts recording. >> so i waited a couple of moments, and then i see an off-duty police officer with his wife and kid holding shopping bags coming out of a store and getting into their car. they had gone shopping, personal shopping, while he was parked at a fire hydrant, endangering the community. what if a fire would have broken out? >> after loading his young son in
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you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw where we ended up. let's pursue those that work. >> ben in terms of the strategy, we were talking about the fact that mitt romney has been trotting out i won't call it stakes, maybe dried pieces of chicken in terms of policy specifics, the $17,000 bucket, et cetera, is there concern that these are enough of a distraction to turn the dynamics of the debate away from a more aggressive posture that the president might take vis-a-vis mitt romney's obfuscation. >> the american people will be tuning in for specifics tonight. they know mitt romney can ably attack the president.
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today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/0 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30%en watt their welfare state. what that tells us is at least half of those people currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will. >> ryan's comment were part of the keynote address at a gala dinner hosted by the american spectator. that was in november 201, ten months ago, well before he was considered to be a vice presidential running mate. >>> a pennsylvania judge will let voters go to the polls without photo i.d., upholding a controversial state law that requires identification but stopping it from taking effect until after elections. voters in pennsylvania will be asked for i.d. but will still be able to vote if they don't have it. democrats are touting the ruling as a win for minority and low-income vot
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regular people who need regular government. it struck me and it must have struck you that this 47% thing that romney said and didn't think anybody was recording, where he said those people don't take care of their own lives. they don't meet their own responsibilities. well, the problem with that is he's attacking people on social security. it seems to me somebody who has been paying payroll tax from the time they were a paper boy or a stock boy from the time they were 14 has taken care and responsibility for their lives. they shouldn't be derided or mocked for not being reliable citizens. did you ever think about that? i'm sure you have. he's attacking basic bread and butter people in this country who worked their whole lives and are living on social security as somehow bums. >> well, he's attacking people on social security, attacking people who are veterans, and you know who else he was attacking if you watch that video, you see the wait staff walking back and forth in front of the camera. in some sense he was attacking them
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the national government has had to protect a lot of citizens against states' rights and for him to go unchallenged on that war was unthinkable. thanks for your time tonight. >>> a criminal probe launched against republicans committing voter fraud. big story. that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason...to look twice. introducing a stunning work of technology -- the entirely new lexus es. and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> finally tonight, a criminal investigation is under way in florida. the florida department of law enforcement is probing a republican voter registration firm that was hired by the republican national committee. we reported about strategic allied consulting. the firm's accused of registering dead people as gop voters on submitting renlg strakss with fake addresses, and of having similar looking signatures on voter forms. the firm's run by my than sproel. in the past, he's been investigated for tricking democrats in to registering for republicans, secretly reregistering democrats as republicans and shredding democr
the national government has had to protect a lot of citizens against states' rights and for him to go unchallenged on that war was unthinkable. thanks for your time tonight. >>> a criminal probe launched against republicans committing voter fraud. big story. that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason...to look twice. introducing a stunning work of technology -- the entirely new lexus es. and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>>...
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see the real internet is very dissatisfying to the government of iran. there is all sorts of stuff on the internet the iranian mullahs do not like so they've been busy closing off bits of internet to the iranian public. you can't use google. now you can't use youtube. you can't use specific sites where the government doesn't like what you can read there or what you can see there. they've been doing that forever. kind of playing with the internet. iran's government is apparently getting tired of managing the increasingly complex patchwork of things they want to block the people in their country from seeing online and so instead they have a genius idea. they are suggesting they may just close off access to the real internet all together and instead build themselves their own internal government approved internet. just for their own country. it's not really an internet. it is more like an iran-ternet. they will build their own separate but equal. ridiculous right? but you can understand that sort of controlling dictatorial impulse here that gives rise to th
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the syrian government blames the rebels, but activists say syrian troops planted those bombs. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the nissan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima. it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. ln cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> it's the final countdown and we know mitt romney has been practicie inine ining zingers f debate. he doesn't want a good line to fall flat or come off as too aggressive. well, neither of those was the problem when lloyd benson delivered this classic line against dan quyale in the debate of 1988. >> i served with jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> so, historically, have thes
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. >> trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government will not create the jobs americans need. >> trickle down government, zing. the crowd there clearly energized by romney's debate performance last night and obama's senior adviser david axelrod praised it as well suggesting it was oscar-worthy, though not worthy of the white house. due to some basic problems with simple veracity. >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. i can't understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. an unelected board, appointed board who are going to decide what kind of treatments you ought to have. >> not true, not true, not true, not true. and since mr. romney got the last word at the debate last night, why don't we give the last word today to the president. >> he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. so governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american
. >> trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government will not create the jobs americans need. >> trickle down government, zing. the crowd there clearly energized by romney's debate performance last night and obama's senior adviser david axelrod praised it as well suggesting it was oscar-worthy, though not worthy of the white house. due to some basic problems with simple veracity. >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. i...
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the law states the federal government will only recognize traditional marriages, meaning no federal benefits even where same-sex marriage is legal. >> same-sex couples are denied hundreds of different rights and benefits that are provided to married different sex couples under federal law. >> reporter: on the docket as well, whether to curtail parts of the historic voting rights act of 1965. it mandates federal oversight for states with a history of voting discrimination, when changing any rules for elections. challengers say the law is outdated and unnecessary. a big lineup of cases that could change the landscape of civil rights in america. fr frances coe, nbc news. >>> and now here's a look at some other stories making news early today in america. in maine, a group of strangers spring into action when an elderly woman drove her car into the portland harbor. the band of good samaritans pulled the 84-year-old out of her car moments before it sank. the woman is in stable condition. some of the rescuers had to be treated for hypothermia. >>> carmageddon 2 has come to an end just in time for t
the law states the federal government will only recognize traditional marriages, meaning no federal benefits even where same-sex marriage is legal. >> same-sex couples are denied hundreds of different rights and benefits that are provided to married different sex couples under federal law. >> reporter: on the docket as well, whether to curtail parts of the historic voting rights act of 1965. it mandates federal oversight for states with a history of voting discrimination, when...
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his framing was this isn't about big government and it's not about small government. it's about smart government. and he could have picked up that same frame and pulled it into this debate for his articulation of his vision for both government, which is make it smart. because romney got points on that. he said i would cut the stupid government programs. >> right, right. >> he's like, me, too. i will invest in the smart government programs, the ones as ari mentioned that will put people back to work. >> along with that, what i thought was so missing from their whole exchange was he had many opportunities to bring in some of romney's fews that are quite extreme. whether you talk about immigration or women's health, gay and lesbian rights. he let those go by. he gave romney in a sense another opportunity to reframe himself yet again. it's difficult to keep up with it. he's presenting new ideas and going back to old ones. >> it's true i kept thinking to myself, the biggest danger was that people may have walked away thinking mitt romney's not that scary. i'm thinking only
his framing was this isn't about big government and it's not about small government. it's about smart government. and he could have picked up that same frame and pulled it into this debate for his articulation of his vision for both government, which is make it smart. because romney got points on that. he said i would cut the stupid government programs. >> right, right. >> he's like, me, too. i will invest in the smart government programs, the ones as ari mentioned that will put...
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he supports arab efforts in their opposition to the syrian government. given the instability of libya and egypt, isn't the president's cautious approach to syria the right one unless, and i repeat, unless we want to get involved in another war? >> hi, martin. well, to be honest with you, i think there is a fairly narrow range of disagreement between the two men here because, as you know, if we think about this kind of a war and we think of all of our range of possible interventions, providing or asking our allies to provide a few more weapons is a relatively modest step along the spectrum. we're not talking about american planes creating a no-fly zone in the romney speech. we're not talking about creation of any kind of a humanitarian protected ground zone up in the north -- >> but, michael, i'm sorry to interrupt you, mike, but we wouldn't expect any details from this man because he never gives us any. t the overarching theme is he wants a new approach. not the approach being expedited by the president. i accept he hasn't gone into details but he doesn'
he supports arab efforts in their opposition to the syrian government. given the instability of libya and egypt, isn't the president's cautious approach to syria the right one unless, and i repeat, unless we want to get involved in another war? >> hi, martin. well, to be honest with you, i think there is a fairly narrow range of disagreement between the two men here because, as you know, if we think about this kind of a war and we think of all of our range of possible interventions,...
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have valid government-issued i.d. then it says some more stuff. the last rule is voluntary compliance. this isn't actually a rule at all. it's just a couple guys trying to make you think it's a rule while you're trying to vote. after that election the massachusetts secretary of state ruled that it was illegal for those guys to be inside that polling place with their big sign that says show i.d. to vote. but by that time, the election was over so maybe the damage was done. we don't know how many people roll past that billboard and decided they wouldn't turn out to vote because they didn't have a driver's license. we don't know how many people strolled in thinking they were going to vote, saw the sign about issuing an i.d. to vote, knew they didn't have that and turned around and walked out. we don't know. it was a factually inaccurate claim on the billboard and sign. it was even illegal for them to be there. but the damage was done. if the point of requiring documentation to vote is that not everybody has it. so therefore, you filter out those who
have valid government-issued i.d. then it says some more stuff. the last rule is voluntary compliance. this isn't actually a rule at all. it's just a couple guys trying to make you think it's a rule while you're trying to vote. after that election the massachusetts secretary of state ruled that it was illegal for those guys to be inside that polling place with their big sign that says show i.d. to vote. but by that time, the election was over so maybe the damage was done. we don't know how many...
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they expect food from their government. well, you know, tamron, call me carl marx, but i believe the richest nation on earth should provide food to the old, to the young, to the disabled, to the mentally disturbed. the people who can't earn enough money to buy their own food. come on. we can do that. that's not mitt romney's view. i think it is difficult to sell his view to a majority of voters. >> we will see tomorrow how he explains that comment and his view for the rest of the country who do not make millions of dollars but certainly deserve a voice. thank you very much, roger. a pleasure having you on. the possible impact of the debates is part of the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll that debuts tonight on "nightly news." how important will the presidential debates be in helping you decide who to support for president? 38% said extremely, while the majority, 62%, said somewhat and not much. mark murray, is that in line with what we've seen when that question is posed before? >> it's an increase in the people that say
they expect food from their government. well, you know, tamron, call me carl marx, but i believe the richest nation on earth should provide food to the old, to the young, to the disabled, to the mentally disturbed. the people who can't earn enough money to buy their own food. come on. we can do that. that's not mitt romney's view. i think it is difficult to sell his view to a majority of voters. >> we will see tomorrow how he explains that comment and his view for the rest of the country...
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in 2007, it was black america against a white government. and knew that he essentially is the government, he is taking that same kind of tactic and he is pitting poor america against wealthy america. the problem with this is that there are actually aggrieved groups, legitimate arguments to be made that the government has neg lengtd the concerns of black america, that our economy has not sufficiently addressed poverty, but you don't put agrieved groups and pit them against one another. that is not what a truly transcendent leader does it is petty, it's small minded, divisive politics and i have to think this is the kind of small-minded world view that is going to keep obama from being considered a great leader. >> where does he do that? >> where does he do what? >> where does he pit two groups against each other? >> his entire economic philosophy and re-election effort, pitting wealthy america against poor america and in this video, if you listen to all 40 minutes, he talks about the federal government essentially not kbarg black america, whi
in 2007, it was black america against a white government. and knew that he essentially is the government, he is taking that same kind of tactic and he is pitting poor america against wealthy america. the problem with this is that there are actually aggrieved groups, legitimate arguments to be made that the government has neg lengtd the concerns of black america, that our economy has not sufficiently addressed poverty, but you don't put agrieved groups and pit them against one another. that is...
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two of those ways were taking federal government money and one of them was a state tax. the first way was this 385 million annual payment that then-senator ted kennedy had to negotiate for the safety net hospitals. president george w. bush wanted to end that which set off a panic and led to romney and kennedy going to the bush administration and cutting a deal with them. massachusetts could keep the money if they put it toward a universal health care plan. that's how it got started. romney and kennedy were trying to keep this federal money. they wanted that money. then the state did two other things. they first covered everyone they could cover in their medicaid problem so they could get the most possible match from the federal government. right now federal medicaid from the federal government -- that is an incredible deal for people in massachusetts. they're getting subsidized by the rest of the country. and then the third way romney paid for it is massachusetts had long before romney was governor, imposed a tax in order to reimburse hospitals for the care they provided
two of those ways were taking federal government money and one of them was a state tax. the first way was this 385 million annual payment that then-senator ted kennedy had to negotiate for the safety net hospitals. president george w. bush wanted to end that which set off a panic and led to romney and kennedy going to the bush administration and cutting a deal with them. massachusetts could keep the money if they put it toward a universal health care plan. that's how it got started. romney and...
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vick ticks who are dependent on the government. at least it was before those remarks were made public. still a bit of a surprise that the romney campaign bit on mr. gingrich's idea, that they took that advice. but they did take that advice. the ream campaign has been running ads accused president obama of gutting welfare reform by removing its work requirements. president obama did not do that, but the romney ads, a lot of them now, say he did. they show white americans working hard and they say this president wants to take your hard-earned money and give it away to lazy welfare recipients who aren't working. it's not true as a matter of policy. but that's how the romney campaign has been running against obama. he repeated the lie to cnn just last week. there was a moment back in may when it became a scandal that a pro-mitt romney super pac had even been pitched the idea of bringing jeremiah wright back as an attack on president obama. that ad campaign was never picked up by the pro-romney super pac or the romney campaign itself. i
vick ticks who are dependent on the government. at least it was before those remarks were made public. still a bit of a surprise that the romney campaign bit on mr. gingrich's idea, that they took that advice. but they did take that advice. the ream campaign has been running ads accused president obama of gutting welfare reform by removing its work requirements. president obama did not do that, but the romney ads, a lot of them now, say he did. they show white americans working hard and they...
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president obama in 2007 telling an audience of african-american ministers that the federal government didn't care as much about katrina victims than it does other disasters. and paul ryan declaring that 70% of the americans want the american dream. the others want the welfare state. the question is do either of these impact the way voters view these two men? >>> and some
president obama in 2007 telling an audience of african-american ministers that the federal government didn't care as much about katrina victims than it does other disasters. and paul ryan declaring that 70% of the americans want the american dream. the others want the welfare state. the question is do either of these impact the way voters view these two men? >>> and some
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the federal government are so intent on suing you? >> i'll tell you, that is one very significant issue that we wish would have been corrected with dodd/frank and some of these other things, the notion that there are now 50 states in the mix, so you have a situation, for example, the big banks are regulated by the federal government, but the non-bank mortgage companies are actually regulated by 50 states and the federal government with a patchwork of regulations and a lot of uncertainty. by the way, all that government uncertainty right now, while rates are very low, they actually could be lower. >> lower? >> they could be lower. rates are .25% higher over treasuries than they've ever been really because of fear and uncertainty because of future regulations that are still yet to come out. that's $50 a month for an average home buyer. >> and something else we don't talk a lot about but also very significant, even with the incredibly low mortgage rates, try and get one. you have got to go through the banks are extraordinarily stringent
the federal government are so intent on suing you? >> i'll tell you, that is one very significant issue that we wish would have been corrected with dodd/frank and some of these other things, the notion that there are now 50 states in the mix, so you have a situation, for example, the big banks are regulated by the federal government, but the non-bank mortgage companies are actually regulated by 50 states and the federal government with a patchwork of regulations and a lot of uncertainty....
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>> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college. >> happy anniversary, mr. president. >> 20th anniversary. >> who is going to cut the spending? who is it? it's romney. >> can i ask a question, please? >> sure. >> go ahead. i want to know what mitt romney's policy is on cancer. she relies on social security and medicare. she's not a lazy person. she worked and it's dependent for them to provide car care. i want to know what his policy is. >> we're curious about israel, how the relations are going to happen. >> regardless, we have obama or romney. >> thank you. let's go down here. do you have any questions? >> i have a question for romney. >> sure. >> i want to know where is the evidence that tickle down works. >> what? >> how does trickle down work? show me the evidence. >> how does cutting the taxes for the rich help everybody else? thank you. we'll be right back with more "hardball" for tonight and the debate. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new
>> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college. >> happy anniversary, mr. president. >> 20th anniversary. >> who is going to cut the spending? who is it? it's romney. >> can i ask a question, please? >> sure. >> go ahead. i want to know what mitt romney's policy is on cancer. she relies on social security and medicare. she's not a lazy person. she worked and it's dependent for them to provide car care. i...
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the one reliable policy you can always count on republicans controlling national government to push through are tax cuts on the wealthy. they won't close deficits, they won't do a lot of other things they say, but the one thing they will do, you can bank on it, is cut taxes for the rich. and that is hanging around him. people saw how that worked the last time. they're going through a recession that has hammered the working class in the way it has benefited the wealthy. and on top of that, he wants to do these tax cuts for the rich. that is the core truth that he has to defend. >> it is hard for him to connect with the middle class when he offers a policy like that. it's more of the same, no doubt. i want to go back to what ezra was talking about, about the economic model that the obama administration had and talking about where unemployment was going to go and how good it was going to be. all of that discussion was being presented to the american people, not knowing that we were going to have is a record amount of filibusters. obstruction is not an excuse. it is a reality. and i believe the
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is not most of what government does, from agriculture subsidies to subsidized student loans to entitlements, the restriction of well the from one cohort or region to another? thank you george will. steve, i've been trying to explain that to mitt romney that every form of taxation is restriction. i, too, would love to hear him called on that one. >> yeah. if we're talking about the whole restriction in this debate tomorrow night, i think it's a symptom of a broader problem for mitt romney and that is we're basically talking about the stuff that he's been talking about to appeal to the republican base. the idea that obama is a restrictioni restrictionist, this is something that has emerged within the base of the republican party that animates them but we have seen that for four years. that image of obama does not have resonance with the swing voters. so romney has been pitching that to the base and he continues to talk about it and his campaign continues to put it out there. if you're talking about that in the debate you're not winning over swing voters and that's not romney's challenge at th
is not most of what government does, from agriculture subsidies to subsidized student loans to entitlements, the restriction of well the from one cohort or region to another? thank you george will. steve, i've been trying to explain that to mitt romney that every form of taxation is restriction. i, too, would love to hear him called on that one. >> yeah. if we're talking about the whole restriction in this debate tomorrow night, i think it's a symptom of a broader problem for mitt romney...
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government. but while the office is constitutionally weak, american presidents have often had enormous power. this comes through each of the offices of the individual presidents to persuade, to wield influence, and at times that power has seemed almost boundless. presidential scholar has more on the presidential strength, underlying our notion of what makes a good president. for many citizens, the president is the ideal of america, and many value strength above all else. which is why of course so many were agast about president obama's performance on wednesday night. they were left asking is he weak? and if he is weak, are we, as a nation, weak? so deep breath, let's pause for a moment and think about what aspects of strength we value. it takes strength to deal honestly with your opponents, even when they deal dishonestly with you. it takes strength to take the tough calls, even when you are not sure how they will turn out. it takes strength to have the patience to watch policy become progress. a
government. but while the office is constitutionally weak, american presidents have often had enormous power. this comes through each of the offices of the individual presidents to persuade, to wield influence, and at times that power has seemed almost boundless. presidential scholar has more on the presidential strength, underlying our notion of what makes a good president. for many citizens, the president is the ideal of america, and many value strength above all else. which is why of course...
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the bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle-down government. >> romney was powerful throughout the debate and almost looking at the president as his prey dominating his responses and dominating, it seems, the moderator, jim leher. >> the president began the segment so i get the last word. >> you get the first word in the next segment. >> he gets the first word of that segment and i get the last word of this comment so let me just make this comment. >> he seems to relish his chance to go one-to-one with the president of the free world. nor did the president forceally challenge mitt romney's policies or his inconsistencies. romney's classic comment about dismissing the 47% of the country that are under various federal programs. his imgags position, romney's jobs in massachusetts to name a few and i have my own personal list which i'll get to. senator michael beties, a democrat here in his home state and michael steele, the former chairman of the republican national committee. both howard and michael are political msnbc analysts. i'll start with
the bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle-down government. >> romney was powerful throughout the debate and almost looking at the president as his prey dominating his responses and dominating, it seems, the moderator, jim leher. >> the president began the segment so i get the last word. >> you get the first word in the next segment. >> he gets the first word of that segment and i get the last word of this comment so let me...
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. >> i tell what you, there are a lot of small-government conservatives that don't think we should be spending over $2 billion a week in afghanistan, who don't think the president should have tripled down the number of troops when he had a chance to pull back and bring those troops home. a lot of conservatives believe that. i think this is a missed opportunity. >> well, and foreign policy clearly is going to be an area where mitt romney will want to make a turn in terms of the narrative of the campaign. one other issue that is now coming into the forefront is the benghazi attack and news over the weekend that the four americans including the u.s. ambassador there who were killed according to politico, romney advisers are now split over how broadly they should hit the president over his handling of that attack. and why it took so long to acknowledge that it was an act of terrorism. while some romney advisers argue they should keep their focus on the economy, politico says plans are in the works for mitt romney to deliver a major foreign policy speech shortly after wednesday's debate. w
. >> i tell what you, there are a lot of small-government conservatives that don't think we should be spending over $2 billion a week in afghanistan, who don't think the president should have tripled down the number of troops when he had a chance to pull back and bring those troops home. a lot of conservatives believe that. i think this is a missed opportunity. >> well, and foreign policy clearly is going to be an area where mitt romney will want to make a turn in terms of the...
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i heard more of the same, stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> joining me now is illinois democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky. she is also vice chair of the president's re-election campaign. and congressman, before i get to those jobs numbers, "the new yorker" has a cover, i'm sure you've seen, depicting mitt romney debating an empty podium, which, of course is a commentary on president obama's lackluster debate performance. you indicated the president may have been thrown off by romney's claims, which president obama says aren't what he has been running on. nevertheless, how is your team preparing the president right now to perform differently next time? >> well, you know, the "chicago sun-times" has an editorial that started, "obama on the facts, romney on style." you know, there was a different guy that appeared, as barack obama said, on debate night, that came up with a whole new set of policies and contradicted himself completely from what is the reality of the romney campaign. it's kind
i heard more of the same, stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> joining me now is illinois democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky. she is also vice chair of the president's re-election campaign. and congressman, before i get to those jobs numbers, "the new yorker" has a cover, i'm sure you've seen, depicting mitt romney debating an empty podium, which, of course is a commentary on president obama's lackluster...
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>> industrial america can actually respond to government breaks. industrial america would take -- if you allowed this em eed thet money back from overseas with assistance of hiring, they would do it, but the money's all overseas. they're not repate yriated. >> why would you let them bring the money back in and all they'll do it use it for dividends? >> that's what they did under the republicans. they didn't care. they made no deal. these guys would make a deal. if you just committed to saying, listen, you have 10,000 employees now. if you have 12,000 employees a year from now, we are going to let you repatriate. but they've got to put it first. you hire, then you get the money back. because if you give them the money back first, they will just give it to shareholders. >> that's right. >> by the way, there are worse things to do than getting $2 trillion back circulating in the united states. because you know what, the shareholders aren't all gordon gecko. >> 90 million people. >> so i hear these people going, oh! they'll just give the money to share
>> industrial america can actually respond to government breaks. industrial america would take -- if you allowed this em eed thet money back from overseas with assistance of hiring, they would do it, but the money's all overseas. they're not repate yriated. >> why would you let them bring the money back in and all they'll do it use it for dividends? >> that's what they did under the republicans. they didn't care. they made no deal. these guys would make a deal. if you just...
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you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy going into the election four years ago. and now, of course, he's manipulating the numbers to make it look good, he's pretty good, this obama guy, manipulating the economy. but my feeling is the economy is actually picking up. >> it is. >> we slowed down in the spring, and now it is picking up. housing is up. >> exactly. >> autos up. >> consumer confidence is up. >> consumer confidence is up. union pacific. >> stock market. >> said his traffic on his railroad is up over last year. that's huge. >> you know, i have had a good friend in florida that -- earl durden, late, great earl durden, he ha
you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy...
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he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, and that's what he's going to do here for america if he's elected. >> i understand that, but briefly, ed, doesn't a voter deserve to know which loophole he will or will not have if he votes for mitt romney? >> well, you know, he talked about last night, you heard him put out, you know, the concept of maybe you would cap the level of deductions so you wouldn't, you know, necessarily eliminate a loophole, you would limit how much of them -- how many deductions you could take. that would give people discretion. you could figure out how high that should be. should it be a percentage of income? should it be a set figure? there are a lot of ways you can get these things done, willie. but again, if you do it in a campaign environment, you say here's this one, here's that one and people lock in on one side or the other against it, that's not the way to get things done. and that'
he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, and that's what he's going to do here for america if he's elected. >> i understand that, but briefly, ed, doesn't a voter deserve to know which loophole he will or will not have if he votes for mitt romney? >> well, you know, he talked about last night, you heard him put out, you know, the concept of maybe you would cap the level of deductions...